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Sunday, August 17, 2008

White puffs on blue


Taken at 11th & Stevenson, Springfield, Illinois, Monday, August 11, 2008, between 6:43 p.m. and 6:45:52 p.m.

Jerome Prophet got some shots of the same clouds (and another one). EJ photographed these clouds, too.

I took a bunch more, ten of which can be found here. The only editing I did on any of these was either auto color or auto contrast in Picasa.

Posted by Marie at August 17, 2008 5:42 PM


It was rather unusual. Not sure how natural all that was. I know that a meteorologist can innocently look into the sky and assume that there must be an entirely natural explanation for such a cloud formation, but I'm not so inclined.

I tend to suspect that anything that looks like it was made by technical processes demands that we at least consider the possibility.

I have posted another photo today, and will put a few more up - one that I have a question about.

Posted by: Jerome Prophet at August 17, 2008 7:42 PM

Weather modification is not science fiction. It has been conducted very publicly--through various methods of cloud seeding--for decades. Of course, there's a school of "thought" that promotes the belief that scientists have developed large scale weather modification techniques that have already loosed catastrophes like Hurricane Katrina on the world (check it out--the Japanese underworld and renegade former Soviet scientists are working in concert). And then you have the "chemtrails" crowd, which looks at contrails and sees the dark hand of weather mod or worse (for instance, behavior control). Not that contrails are without effect; there are suggestions in meteorological research, including a study based on observations during the one-week hiatus in commercial flights over the United States following 9/11, that condensation trails do in fact play a part in cloud formation and could influence various aspects of the weather.

All of the above is verifiable through your friendly neighborhood Web browser, if you're inclined to use it critically. Now, Jerome, if you think those clouds were generated by some weather mod engine, I won't tell you to go and strap on your foil hat. But I will say you ought to spend some time looking carefully at what meteorologists say about cloud formation. As it happens, the Land of Lincoln's own University of Illinois has a pretty good beginning research site: http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/cld/cldtyp/home.rxml


Posted by: Dan at August 18, 2008 1:34 AM

JP, It is unusual for this area. Although if you look on flicker, those kinds of clouds are all over the place.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say the diagonal white line of puffs in this picture was previously a solid (well, more formed) line of a contrail. It broke up under the same wind conditions that caused the cloud to break up.


On Flickr I tagged some of the photos with "altocumulus undulatus" based on jpmatth's identification, and which seems right. According to wiki those kinds of clouds form at 8,000 to 20,000 feet. Another wiki article says that contrails form at 26,000 feet and above.


Either that contrail is really low, or those clouds are really high.

Dan, Thank you for that UIS link. Excellent.

Speaking of the USSR and weather manipulation. I have a very distinct recollection of my 7th Grade English teacher saying something about the Russians being able to change the U.S.'s
weather. I don't remember exactly what he said. But, interesting nonetheless. Of course, that was back in the day when "they" wanted us to be afraid of Russia. Oh, and that teacher? Yeah, he voted for Pat Paulsen for president.

Posted by: at August 18, 2008 9:37 PM

You know I've taken photos of lightening, and if you have read my blog you'll know I believe the U.S. government uses artificial lightening to help force rain from clouds (sonic boom forcing condensation). Just because someone can write about lightening, and take photos of it, and keep their mouth shut, and keep their government job as a meteorologist doesn't mean they control the public.

And that goes for the artificial cloud that was moving over Springfield, Illinois last week.

Look what's going on now!

Once again we see a lot of quick moving clouds across the Midwest from the North - headed South - bringing cool dense air from the North down over the continent - and just in time for the oncoming tropical storm/hurricane.

If you run a search on steering hurricanes on my blog there's a link to an article(s) on using continental weather to steer incoming hurricanes.

Now we can have the "unusually cool" August that we had - like the Summer that followed Hurricane Katrina when the clouds were thick with strangely dark "dust".

Let's not blame the poor old Russians for this. China comes right out and modifies the weather over China because they can, and no one can say anything about it. Here it's a big taboo because of the legal issues - the insurance related litigation issues involved.

But it is too powerful of a tool to let a democratic society get in the way of - it is too powerful of a weapon to let anyone get in the way of. Controlling the weather is like being god, and there's no way the U.S. black ops folk would ever pass this up.

Hey, we have to hand it to our boys in black - they save us tens of billions a year, possibly much more.

I'd just like to see it out in the open where we can improve the program significantly, and work out the legal and social issues involved with weather modification.

I have one close up which shows a nearly flawless set of lines which look as if they had been created by a ink jet printer - or perhaps a computer controlled remotely piloted vehicle.

You know if I buy into this we just as well begin to accept the next stage where we'll be seeing designer clouds all over the place all the time.

Maybe they can sketch some subliminal messages in all that suggesting we obey the government, and vote Republican?

Posted by: Jerome Prophet at August 18, 2008 10:11 PM